At first I thought this forum at SeekGod.ca was really a nice place to come and discuss Christian views and ideas.
Progressively I found that there is a bias which I am sure the authors on the board do not realize at all. I believe they are sincere Christians but unaware of their own biases.
Vicky runs the board. She has not been bad in her responses at least to me.
However there is a former messianic who was indoctrinated in the "go-back-to-torah-after-becoming-a-Christian" group. She was deceived. She found her way out. She is nicknamed Rose of Shushan.
However I do notice a distinct bias against Jews and Israel. She has deceived herself into believing that the Jews in Israel and the state of Israel are as much to blame for the problems in the middle east as the Palestinian terrorists.
Every time I mention any reasons why there is a problem in the middle east or attempt to inform her about Palestinian problems she turns it around as if the Jews and Israel are to blame. And she does call herself a Christian. Any time anyone comes on the board and mentions things which I know to be true she casts doubt on it.
Comments She Made:
- ObsessionTheMovie as it is agreed by people that know as accurate.
- That Palestinians are taught from a VERY YOUNG age to hate Jews and Israel.
- That Hamas, Fatah, and the PLO are/were terrorist organizations which foster hatred against Israel.
Let's take one at a time.
- The producers of "Obsession the Movie" were interviewed on CNN: along with Nonie Darwish, daughter of a Shahid. There were no questions about the accuracy of the movie which she says is hateful.
- CNN asked for an Islamic response and none was forthcoming.
I pointed out to Rose that truth is not hateful. Jesus called the pharisees "whitewashed tombstones" and "sons of the devil". Does that sound hateful? Of course. But he was speaking truth.
2. Rose uses ad hominem attacks by using words like "hate propaganda", "profess to be a believer", "right-wing Islamophobes".
All of these words are attacking, judging words but when I pointed out that to her she just ignored my comments which was typical of any points that she chose not to answer. They do not give evidence of "hate" anywhere, just truth.
3. She makes comments like this about Palestinians acting as though Israelis are as bad as Palestinians.
Rose: Palestinians are not a terrorist organization that claim to be rightful owners of the land. Isn't that extremely harsh, especially coming from a Christian?
She has no idea that Palestinian children are taught to hate Israelis at the earliest ages on TV, children's shows, and textbooks.
Palestinians elected Hamas, to be their government. Hamas is a recognized terrorist group.
Palestinian textbooks with hate:
Quote from Wikipedia regarding Hamas:
Brief quote: " Hamas Charter affirmed in 1988 that Hamas was founded to liberate Palestine from Israeli occupation and to establish an Islamic state in the area that is now Israel, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip.[1"
"The European Union, the United States,Canada, Israel and Japan classify Hamas as a terrorist organization,[12"
"The Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the Hamas affiliated military wing, has launched attacks with both military and civilian victims. Tactics have included rocket attacks and, from 1993 to 2008,suicide bombings. Military targets included Israeli and Egyptian outposts and border crossings and rival Palestinian militias in the occupied territories."
There is so much more that could be said about how Rose of Shushan interprets or looks for information which is unfavorable to Israelis and favorable to Palestinians. She makes comments about being balanced when she is far from balanced.
How do you balance a neighbor who sponsors terrorism, teaches hate, and wants to eliminate you with a peaceful democracy which respects the beliefs of others, allows freedom to all their holy sites, and teaches peace and respect in their schools [Israel]?
It is sad that Rose of Shushan is blinded perhaps by her former messed up messianic roots teachings that she displays a prejudice against Jews. Even Martin Luther in spite of his realizing what was wrong with the catholic church of his day, developed as strong prejudice against Jews about which Hitler claimed he was finishing the work of Luther. Constantine was also anti-Jewish. All of these individuals have good attributes, no one is perfect, but surely bias against a race or country is recognized as wrong by at least the Western world.
But I will keep praying for her. Even thorns need prayer.
She also cast doubt on whether arabs danced in the streets when they heard of the 9/11 destruction.